HeathIson

I don't know. Are we hipsters? Or are we lamestreamers? I have never ran a website so I don't know how much web-traffic is a lot, really. It may become overflooded with nonsense like deviant art. But you know more about this stuff than I do, so you should decide.

cybermutiny

The lameness of deviantart partially stems from its lack of a rating system. On PA-G, you can downvote art to oblivion or upvote/visually respond it to prominence. Hopefully this keeps the BS at bay.

cybermutiny

You can brag to your friends that you knew about PA-G before it was famous: www.pa-g.co/index.php

HeathIson

I hope making it on the front cover of TIME hasn't went to your head, DJ... I just don't want you to become ZED The Second... (you know I'm just joking right now, right?)

cybermutiny

haha. I must have created the Zed story because on an unconscious level I AM Zed.

tessadepessa

what about having both?

mimz

I like Pa-G how it is, In fact I love it, I feel right at home.. I dont know If I will like it any other way. but yeah go for it. could be interesting. or do both if possible.. ? good idea. either way, we/I will brag about being here before it got famous! :D

cybermutiny

Hmm...okay, thanks for the feedback. For the time being, I will keep the url the same.

It seems more sleek and aerodynamic with PA-G.CO

GiliusThunderhead

That's a hard question. It is your project. One thing that is so cool about the website is the vibe and intimacy of the community. It's quirky and fun, and there's room for a lot of meaningful exchanges. Broadening the size of the community will change the vibe. Change is an inevitable thing though... The vibe has changed in the year or so I've been here- more artists, some artists dropping off, new influences, different dynamics. However, if the volume of art and artists increases massively, things will change. If the site really blew up, things would probably feel very different. Yes, people can downvote artwork, but how often do people actually do that unless an artwork is inflammatory or offensive? If there were thousands of active members, it would feel like there was a flood of information and content. Some of the meaning in our interactions here would be destroyed, or lost to the wind.

GiliusThunderhead

I know this is your project and you will have your own aims for the future of the website- if it were my project, I would be looking for ways to grow it though and make it greater than it was the day before. So I understand the desire for expansion. Here's my take- think about what makes PA-G awesome. Think about what motivates people to be part of this uniquely quirky community. Think about what makes people want to take time making and sharing their quirky, funny, or crude artwork, and exchanging with others. All the things that makes PA-G, PA-G. If an expansion were to happen, the goal would be to creatively devise some ways to make structural changes to the website as well, so that the inherent meaning for users in being here can be preserved.

GiliusThunderhead

Some of that meaning will be lost if everyone was drowning in a sea of content. So maybe if there is an increased flow of content, some structural changes to help bring organization to all of the new information coming in would be beneficial. Maybe the possibility for users to create artist groups... Or giving users the ability to "friend" others, or follow or subscribe to other artists. If there will be more content, you could give the users a way to manage the content coming to them on PA-G, and also ways for the community to collectively manage and separate content. I'd think about what you want the website to be for people- creative solutions are definitely possible so that the website can grow, and still support that expansion in a way that makes sense for everyone.

cybermutiny

Thanks Gilius. That is some good input. Basically what you're saying is, if I turn on that water hose full-blast, I better have a nice fancy bucket to handle it all. (strange analogy?)

I'm flying back to Korea in a few days and will try to force myself to re-learn the Korean I forgot. Who knows, I might actually be fluent someday. That means PA-G improvements might be on hold for a bit.

When I start coding again, one of the first things I want to do is add a "suggested improvements" module. Basically it will be a table where people can add suggested improvements and then other people can vote them up or down. So if many people upvote "add a friends section" or "turn PA-G pink" I will feel compelled to do so.

I also want to add a similar kind of module for "suggested art competition topics." I think art competitions need to be institutionalized and solidified into beautiful, perpetual existence. This was one of the cool things from back in the day.

HeathIson

What Gilius said.
You guys... you guys are like...my family...

cybermutiny

Nice VR there, Gilius. I assume that hose is coming out of the monster's stomach and not out of his genitals.

GiliusThunderhead

Assumption.... incorrect :( He has a tap for genitals.. He is the unseen magical entity that embodies PA-G.. All life and content on the website spews from his eternal Paint-Tap betwixt his loins... He contains the germ of Life of supreme Paint creativity. At least in my VR... hahaha

GiliusThunderhead

HAHAHAHA amaaaazing artwork revival!!

zylis

Change the address to sunkissedbeachboyz.gov and im in. BOOYAH

ThaiVoodooWizarddb

Provide the site in different languages????
If you make it possible for more people to join this site, we who are here now can be the cool guys who were there all along

cybermutiny

Make it available in Swahili?

Actually, my boundless knowledge is limited in the area of multi-language websites.

ThaiVoodooWizarddb

So it should be a silent website, where we use various symbols and hand gestures.

Vas_Def_Rin

I really do love this site. I've been a member for only like 4 days, and already feel pretty at home. I wish there were more ways to interact with the artists than just on the art, and the visual responses. I suppose I have a hard time being social with people, and making friends, like DA, that site made me feel worthless, actually. I just wish there were easier ways to make friends on here. I'm loving everything though.

GiliusThunderhead

Yeah man, this site rocks. Just express yourself, comment on artworks and do visual responses especially. People will get to know you.

Vas_Def_Rin

I've got to get more of a FEEL, of other people before I think I can do more visual responses. I have like, low self esteem on that stuff. I'm not that good at drawing, so visual responses take thought and drawing abilities. I'm just more of an abstract person... But I love everyone's work here, it's opening my eyes on what I can do to improve the whole "collaboration" thing. I love it. Your stuff is really amazing, too Gilius, everything I've seen from you, I've given the Good job thingy.

BrandonMueller

LET THE MASSES HEAR! MS PAINT IS...well, its just swell....SO LET THEM SEEEEEEE

mimz

Vas def rin, your artwork is AMAZING. so shush, believe in yourself man.

ms paint is boom!

GiliusThunderhead

Thank you Vas, I really appreciate hearing that and I'm glad you enjoyed the artworks.

Your style is cool, help us liven things up here with more of your abstracts.

mimz

change me not good all the time. change be SCARY. :P half a joke and, I hate deviant art.and I second vas, gillius, your artwork is awesom

GiliusThunderhead

<3!!!!!!!!!!

zylis

/////////////THE ROAD TO SELF ACCEPTANCE STARTS WITH NAKED ROLLER DERBY\\\\\\\\\\\\

Vas_Def_Rin

I'm positive Naked Roller Derby leads to all things amazing.

BrandonMueller

as long as you take the proper precautions Vas....safety FIRST!

Vas_Def_Rin

Does that mean taping my boobs to my shoulders? Because if so.. CHECK!

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